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December 7, 2007


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More Challenges with EGFR Rashes

  Rashes from EGFR inhibitors: we like to see them, because we know that many trials have shown that skin toxicity on drugs like tarceva is associated with better survival (see prior post), but the fact is that sometimes a rash is more than an inconvenience and can really make people miserable, or at least pretty unhappy, as described in the comments and questions from a discussion forum thread today.  I’ve described some general management principles for rash in another prior post, but in truth, oncologists aren’t well trained in rash management, and we’ve generally had to learn as we go along, because EGFR inhibitors have introduced this as a new problem in oncology.  Tarceva is a well established treatment at this point for lung cancer, and while the monoclonal antibody Erbitux has been used primarily in colon cancer and head and neck cancer thus far, a major lung cancer trial with erbitux was also recently reported as positive (post here), so there’s a strong possibility that erbitux, which is also associated with very significant rashes (and better survival correlated with that), will also be used increasingly for lung cancer.

   But there may be more to managing these rashes than the basics I described in prior posts.  One of the leading experts is Dr. Mario Lacouture, a dermatologist from Northwestern Univ., who has published some proposed guidelines that are an alternative to some of the other approaches I had previously described (paper here, with a rather complex algorithm figure included).  This work focuses on early and aggressive use of minocycline (synthetic tetracycline) and elidel cream, a treatment developed and approved for eczema.  In truth, I haven’t used this yet, but I’ve heard from some people who have that Elidel and this general approach can be very helpful.

   Dr. Lacouture is included in a panel on a CME program that is available on the web, “The Conundrum of Rash in Management of EGFR Inhibitors“, which includes a detailed and somewhat complex medical presentation (the target audience is doctors) but that also includes several accessible take-home points.  It’s available through that website as a 70+ minute streaming video program, or a podcast or MP3 audio file, or you just download the transcript.  One thing that the program highlights, in addition to the point that “oncologists are bad dermatologists” (sad but true), is that there is also the ongoing question of whether and when to temporarily hold the EGFR inhibitor therapy and then drop to a lower level.  In general, while we’d try to manage people on the highest dose feasible, these are treatments that have the potentially to be chronically helpful.  Because of that, I do see it as a question of what is the lowest dose needed to get the desired effect.  if someone is having trouble managing on 150 mg and has been stable for many months, I think it’s appropriate to test whether they might feel FAR better on 100 mg and have just as stable disease, or an ongoing response.  While we’ve seen that patients who develop a severe rash can do particularly well, there’s no evidence I’m aware of that people who lowered the dose subsequently (and felt better) did any worse than those who continued to suffer at the highest dose they could tolerate with difficulty. 

   Overall, it’s good to see that we’re starting to see more dedicated study of these EGFR-based rashes, and to get more actual results from these experiences.  I think we’ll need to continue to balance between aggressively managing side effects and to learn whether we need to dose to the borders of tolerability or whether reducing dose to a more comfortable chronic solution is appropriate. 



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    recce101 Says:

    One more update on the Cordran tape and fingertip issue, then I’ll put it into the “mostly resolved at least for now” category.

    This week I saw my dermatologist for a follow-up visit, the first time I’d seen him since starting with the tape (my oncologist had called in that prescription, but the two have discussed my case on the phone). I told him the tape was much more helpful than anything else I’d tried, although the fingertips and nail margins remained very sensitive and easily injured. He said the tape does a good job on inflammation, but it also makes the skin thinner and less able to retain moisture, and he recommends that it be used for a maximum of two consecutive weeks and then set aside for at least a week. To protect the skin after the tape is off, he suggested Gloves In A Bottle, an OTC “shielding lotion” which bonds with the outer layer of skin to help protect the deeper layers from irritants and prevent their natural oils and moisture from escaping. It does not wash off, but comes off naturally with the exfoliated outer layer cells and needs to be reapplied every 4 hours for best protection. One drop is enough to coat all of my fingers, and it does help — a lot. I’m inclined to think the fingertip problem might have been largely prevented if I’d been using this product all along.

    Aloha,

    Ned

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    recce101 Says:

    I’ve been using the Cordran tape for 2 weeks now, so I’ll give a quick update before Santa comes over the hill:

    Though I find it clearly better than anything else I’ve tried so far — Neosporin or Mupirocin or tea tree oil with band-aids and/or finger cots — it still hasn’t returned the fingertips and nail margins back to normal. It does reduce the soreness more than the other products, and that’s quite helpful, but they stay very fragile and easily damaged. I suppose the toxic effects of the Tarceva and the beneficial effects of the Cordran are pretty much at a standoff. I tried to take a break from the Cordran recently just to see what would happen, and the fingers got worse rapidly, but things returned to standoff status a day after I put the tape back on.

    A complicating factor for me, and probably for some others, is that my healing processes are severely compromised from a full year on Avastin then an immediate jump to 150mg Tarceva. I’m hesitant to ask about a lower dose because my other side effects are now very tolerable, and my response to the first 2 months of Tarceva was not especially spectacular — stable tumor, some reduction in the loculated pleural effusion. Looking forward to hearing others’ experiences with the tape.

    Aloha,

    Ned

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    Dr. West Says:

    I’ve already made calls about it and definitely going to try Cordran in some of my patients facing these issues. I’ll post on our experiences and encourage others to do the same, whether with Cordran or another intervention that works.
    -Dr. West

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    Pamee Says:

    I think I will ask for the Cordran tape for my fingers, I ended up having my toe nail removed and I tried the liquid band-aid, but found it was more irritating than the splits on my fingers - I think I may be allergic to it as I turned red and itchy.

    Pamee

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